The recommended base layer is #3 or #57 crushed stone. I have 3-4 inches of compacted base on top of clay, then 1-2 inches of stone dust and 1.5-2 inch thick limestone. Sweeping dg into the joints again, because some voids will have appeared after the first hose down, then hosing down again. Thx, I do phone/email consultations for $93 an hour. Even grass seed maybe. Ive seen stone dust joint stabilizers are being sold, but that might be as bad as poly sand. Im not a big fan of sealing flagstone or color enhancers. I have a large backyard, with 150+' x 5' wide pea gravel walkways.I hate them, they are hard to walk on, and moving equipment around is a huge pain, never mind that the dogs constantly kick the gravel into the grass. The location is climate type 9b, Northern California. Or any Masonry supply place. Looks like it was not sealed properly. Hey Jeff. Last year, I installed the landscape fieldstone for a courtyard but after an injury, had to stop before completing. So fun, so tiring!). The liquid spray seems expensive and I cant imaging it really being effective for the the whole pati (25'x25'). Location: New England. Can I sweep stone dust into the cracks now instead of sand? It seemed to work pretty well. Do I start with stone dust and then add a top layer of topsoil? Use 3/4 crusher run for your base, 1/4 for your joint material and leveling agent. Once the final coat is dried, test the pea gravel for stability. Not a good look. If the foundation is nominal, then there may be shifting. 3. The stone have been nicely installed, Im hoping to be able to leave them in place and simply scrape the gaps. This mix is damp enough that it clumps together without needing to be smooshed together with the trowelbut just barely: https://www.devineescapes.com/replacing-the-cement-between-flagstones/. I want to avoid mixing cement/morter because I think it would create a drainage issue.Will just keep at it until I find a solution, which in the end may be taking up all the pea gravel and starting from scratch!Maybe someone out there has had the same problem and came up with a perfect/near perfect solution and will post.Murphy. I was thinking of the polymeric hardening sand before reading your advice here and Im thinking screenings (Decomposed Granite I think is what its listed at in Lowes) might still seem attractive to the dogs if it is very loose like sand. voc free, eco-friendly and easy to install for the DIY. I have travertine pavers going down on a dry set base. Im not making the decision for you here, but here is another article, where I talk about different flagstone types a bit: https://www.devineescapes.com/what-type-of-flagstone-to-use-for-your-patio-or-stone-walkway/. Quickrete mason mix type s. Green bag. I did not want to mention this optionbecause I do not like it. see if it works. The gravel was solidly stuck together. We live in Washington, DC. The other site is wrong. Finally, Ill bring back the stones and level them (with screenings?) Maybe lay 2 inches and tamp that, lay the top layer and leave that loose. Hi Devin Thanks for all your comments. Sure, if you have 3 gaps between your stones you could fill them with a couple of river rocks, and the decomposed on top/around the rive ricks. Flagstone, and such-like. Are there certain colors light or dark? Or can I fill all of the stones with top soil? Due to the irregularity of the stones the cracks are from 1-4 wide. Question: contractors want to use polymeric filler or some combo of filler. A gap much wider than half an inch will become a minor puddle spotand that water will go down into the ground. Would you advise just sealing the mortar? Secondly, never been afraid of a little work!! If your patio is built upon a concrete foundation then you want to repair the joints with mortar. Well, its fairly easy, but you have to becarefulthe sand is mixed with a binder. What is the best way to repair? is this a bad practice? They are basically pebbles that have both aesthetic and functional uses. Maybe %90. Like 1 and a half feet wide would do itget all the way down to only one foot wide (surface area) at that thin, and it will wobble. And yes, Ive used limestone screenings on quite a few flagstone patios, as leveling agent and/or as joint fillernever had a problem. Also can I expect your comment via email or simply on this site? I will check out your website further. Then maybe Id write an article and update it once a year, reporting on how it performs and how to best maintain it. I have been extremely happy with it -- it looks great and has stayed neat, clean, and stable for two years now. Im doing a small extension of a patio leading to a path about 200x18. Stone dust will work. Use a roller to compact the gravel, which also helps with stability. You never want to use mortar, if the foundation is dry laid. I have raw edged slate from a slate fall in the woods, so its a puzzle to fit, but super relaxing and good exercise. I then took a blower and carefully blew away the very small amount of dust that accumulated on the open surface of the flagstone as a result of the vibrating process. So far we have tried aggressive scrubbing test areas with soap and water, aggressive scrubbing with a 50/50 bleach mixture, and also with a powerful house siding cleaning mixtureall with no luck, the same haze remains. Grey stone dust screenings will cost about 40-50 per cubic yard. Luckily, there are many ways you can stabilize pea gravel on walkways and driveways. I was excited by the product at first.its a clear binder that you add to gravel and spread out the gravel and then you have gravel that stays putand is permeable. Properly installed, rain washing the decomposed granite out from in between the flagstones should not be a problem. Thanks! Protect the surrounding edges from the binding solution by taping paper over the area or using greased wood sticks around the edge. Were actually fixing a poorly done patio for a friend. And, if so, is there a way to do this so you dont see the border material for the finished project? It is good to know that pros have to take it stone-by-stone and be patient. Make sure to wear rubber gloves for protection. I'd likely just go for concrete after this fiasco. these fines, when dampened, actually do bind up with the larger chips, becoming semi-solid. Mix up type S mortar mixpre-mixed stuff is fine. Hose the joints down, on shower setting, sweep off the excess, if you want you can use blower to remove more excess stone dust. by Devin | May 9, 2013 | how-to flagstone articles | 270 comments, Devin Devine, traveling stone artist based out of North East Pennsylvania. I was wondering how best to address a potential problem as winter is approaching. Clay subsoil can compact and sometimes stay fairly stablebut usually, it will settle and heave over the years, sometimes leaving you a fairly level patio, just with a bit of character. Anywayssince you just used local soil, and built it yourself rather than hiring a mason, we can pretty much just say Well, it may not be perfect, but its got heart!. Pea gravel is highly desirable as it is versatile and cost-effective. We were afraid a bigger pest i.e. Id wager that it would remove the poly sand hazeuse proper precautionsif it does work, you will have little bits of plastic flaking off and disintegrating, which will then need to be cleaned up again in turn. Remove the mortar with an angle grinder and chisel/large flatheat screwdriver. Thanks for your help, George. And thank you for bringing me 1/2 to 3/4 stone joints. Not sure DG would drain properly with the cement base. This sounds like an ambitious project. But on a dirt foundation, to set flagstones in a bed of cement based mortar, just doesnt make sense, for use with flagstone. The advantages of gravel. Also, no to weed barrier? Tell a friend and stuff. I have a dry laid flagstone patio in the backyard, and am exploring some joint filler options. Yes, whenever you grind out mortar joints between flagstone, I pretty much expect a stone or two to pop up lose. Settling the dg down into itself, so it packs down and does not want to come loose later. Devin, thank you for the article and for your generosity in responding to questions/comments. If stone chips are getting all over the surface of your flagstone, then the joints are probably over filled. Hello Chris. But sand wont help and if you do not want to do it proper to begin withthen what you already have is probably fine. The sales guy who sold the glue mess to the general contractor (yes, I subbed, once upon a time!) What I would do is lift up a few stones and observe the foundation. I seem to have to pressure wash mine every year. He wants to lay a new flagstone patio on top of a mix of sand mixed with cement(about 6 to 1). The manufacturer recommends clean gaps of just polymeric sand. Rake it out, hose it down, let it drythen walk on it. How can I create a smoother surface? Very glad I could help One stone at a time, no plastic needed. About ground cover for in between your stones.theres a few good options out there, like Irish moss (not really a moss) and thyme and others. Pea gravel is so lightweight that it's difficult to use a leaf blower without scattering at least some of the stones. Great, youre welcome and I hope my advice is helpful. It would compact into a pretty hard surface over time. Results may varypolymeric sand is not always easy to fix.. A path made out of this material will be very loose, and will easily dispersed by foot traffic and weather. And yes, I do prefer tighter joints, but dg should work for 2 joints. I have been getting a lot of hate from basically contractors who don't want you to do your own work. Maybe some other kind of inexpensive metal grating would also work. Patio is sloped but not very much. Paving units will shift slightly, especially in colder climates with a freeze thaw cycle. I am located near Blakeslee and want to get quality screenings for my flagstone project. Wed like to use a contrasting product to highlight the design and fill in the empty space. Leave small joints, like 1/4. Tamp the base rock until it does not move, as this supports the pea gravel. I recommend screeningswhich are 1/8 inch and smallerand contain the very important finesflour-like, powdery stone dust. Kern in his book, "The Owner Built Home" talks about no-fines concrete. Then tamp. The material beneath the flagstone may settle. I have written an article that discusses whether to use sand, cement or gravel for in between you flagstone joints. Our monsoon rains also might wash it out. I imagine theyre not all entrances to the colony, they are just cast-off from their digging. Spread it out, rake it in, hose it down. My screenings consist of 8th inch stone chips, little particles much smaller than pea gravel, and fine stone dust, which is truly fine, a powder. If your existing patio has mortared joints, then it likely is built upon a concrete foundation. Ive done a few jobs in maryland and the greater D.C area, and thats what Ive seen anyway. Is there a liquid or possible caulking that could be used in this type of situation? Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page. So idk what to tell you..then again, over the years Ive seen a few stone patios with larger gaps, filled with stone dust, and i built a stone walkway once, with large gaps filled with gravel. Most of the patio is in a high sun area, so moss (which I love) is out of the question I think. Sure, with such large gaps the stone dust may kick out, and get on the stone surface, but it wont be an annoyance or a trip hazard, the way that larger gravel probably will. I am working on installing a small flagstone walkway with decomposed granite base. Do you recommend using cement/sand mortar combination or to go with stone dust. I want to use decomposed granite or a similar natural product, other than sand, that is tan in color instead of grey. As far as separation along the cracks goesthis is a matter of technique, not of product. As mentioned in the article right above..I go with screenings. I was told to lay my flag stone like a puzzle with a 3/4 in space in between, and use a mallet to get the flagstones to be level with one an other. Do you have any comments on how to best drain this so it doesnt continue to settle after i install the flagstones? Cobblestones were probably laid on a bed of sand on top of that concrete, so it might be best to lift the cobbles, re-lay on stone dust, fit em tighter, fill gaps with stone dust. Good luck! Screenings are sold by the name screenings in New Jerseyalthough some places may use the name grit or stone dust. I have a flagstone walkway with the stone separated by 3-4 inches (anything closer would be considered an impervious surface and restricted by zoning due to coverage restrictions so nothing to be done about that). This is professional advice, written by dedicated a stone mason/passionate stone artist with over 25 years experience. Can I still use the screening and will moss grow in it? How can I offer landscape advice if I dont know your climate? Thanks for saving me from the poly sand! Good luck! Youre welcome. Possibly free too, if you have gravel onsite. For example, something like this: https://www.glengery.com/mortar or maybe something from Sika? They all set back nicely without any wobble (even after walking on them). On impulse, I created a design, using a few large pieces of flagstone, in the centre of the patio. Add the proper amount of cement and water and mix well by some mechanical means, smooth to grade and pack it. Polymeric sand, or poly-sand seemed great at first. Are there any key steps Im missing? And this picture right here, makes it even better. We do have what is called shaker sand which is a combination of sharp sand with some pea gravel mixed in (pea gravel that was smaller than normal and was screened out from the normal pea gravel. Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. Polymeric sand makes people think that they can cheat, that they can get away with wider joints than they would otherwise. These fines harden up, almost like a binder, and after enough cycles of rain and sweeping the stuff back in, it eventually just stays there. . We have large four inch thick, Colonial stone laid on a dry base, like a stepping stone path. Just shy of the top. Is that just the nature of stone dust? I cant say too much about stabilized decomposed granite. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Is this just added polymer binder (plastic)? Great article and Q&As! Every time it rains, screening from my joints splatters into my stone and patio furniture. Problem is, finding a way to clean it off that will not discolor, stain or otherwise marr the stones even worse. Shower your pavers to seal and harden the sand. Furthermore, the polymeric sand stays in place because it is glued together and also glued to the stones or bricks it is placed between. Florida is one of the most unique states in the country because of the weather, sights, and bodies of water. If you wish to pressure wash a patio that has screenings for the joints, then you will have to sweep the material back into place after pressure washing. Dont cover that steak in big mac sauce. Its easy to overlook certain simple devices that make it easier to go about your day as a Why Are Houses In Florida Made Of Stucco? If sothen fill your joints with mortar. and you want to come up with a dry joint, that has the same color. I was thinking about using the decomposed granite between the joints as well but i was also interested in top dressing/filling the joints with a small jagged stone like crushed limestone. Thank you Devin for this, preparing to put in quartz flags in Colorado over clay soil, gravel base, love this long term solution you provide with decomposed granite for leveling and filler. Worried about chair legs busting through. When using pea gravel for a hard surface patio or similar area, you need to use a binding solution. Take a look at some of the polymer sealers out there, Gator Dust, by Alliance, works with patio installs. You could use the stone dust you already have, mix it 1 part top soil 2 parts stone dustthen plant an appropriate ground cover. Shoot me an email if you think youll need personal guidance, otherwise goodluck and I hope Ive been helpful . I haven't used it but was impressed that Colonial Williamsburg and other historic places used it. My plan was to go with a fairly tight joint for the whole patio but then get even tighter for the 5 feet or so immediately close to the pool.in the end, I think the entire patio got a half inch joint, maybe more like three eighths to a quarter inch, for the few feet closest to the pool, but no major difference, just a smidge tighter right by the pool. Do you know if one can expect the haze to slowly fade away over time? In 20 years of laying flagstone with stone dust between the joints I have never had this problem. So, if that patio is dry laid, then I would remove the material from the joints at the same time I was pressure washing the stones surface. Me, I usually go 6+ in northern regions, 4+ in warmer places. Thank you for bringing that updecomposed granite is yet another name for stone dust. I hope for your sake, and the contractors sake too, that such a fate can be avoided. Gaps are approxly one inch. The existing patio settled in some spots, so im planning to regrade it with new stone dust to keep it pitched away from the house. What do you suggest for front stair edges to prevent the stone from being tippy? material. Have you seen this water proofing used before to settle the quarry dust? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Hi Devin. Also on my jobs the joints are maybe an inch wide, or less.Ive seen other hardscapes where the flagstones have 3 gaps between themtry keeping anything in there. Well, i figured pavers are just big stones, and it works for them. Everywhere where theres a quarry, youll find this product.perhaps with different local names. I just used stone dust (screenings) as a leveler and in between stones. Then theres the flagstone work we did around this pond.so loose, I cant even call it a patio: https://www.devineescapes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/pond-water-feature.jpg. I like this idea but they are quite an expensive solution to fix this $32 load of gravel 2. Thanks for such a thorough reply. Am thinking that doing this with decomposed granite is something that I could pay my fireman son to do in his off days. I recently laid down a flagstone patio in sand and used sand to fill the joints. Thanks again! Also, it is unnecessary. But screenings are only used in dry laid application. look at Landscaping Projects 2007, Favourite ROSES We Grow albums. An angle grinder or similar tool may be used. SHORT ANSWER: get some stone dust aka screenings. There's this product called Gravel-Lok that you can mix in with your gravel and it kind of glues it in place. Now, my joints were set tight, maybe half inch widewider joints than that might be an issue. Which is ideal for large joints? I cant find any advice on-line about how to apply the stone dust. Thank you for the responses. Best way that Ive found to remove that sort of haze is to just use a power washer. There are some joints approaching 1 inch. Or can you use stone dust to fix areas? Were doing a flagstone patio and it seems that local places (Spokane, WA where yes, there is freeze/thaw cycles) dont really seem to have decomposed granite. PDF for Aggregates/Sand & Gravel Washing Polymer Additions. If the stones are set upon a concrete foundation: mortar, as addressed here. Will water flow over the flagstones to the drain with dry set stones, or do i need to do something totally different? In my experience however, that was a rare exception to the rule. The flagstones, having not perfectly flat surfaces, means that if you fill the joints all the way flush with the tops of the flagstones, then that joint material will spill out. The smallest grade of gravel generally available, consisting of small 1/8 or less chips of stone and fine stone dust, like powder. I noticed almost the same effect/thing on the dirt in the garden. If you used protecting paper and tape or wood sticks, you can remove them. Hi, the home we own in Colorado has a really large flagstone patio but the previous owner never put in any fillers. Do you use cold chisels or is a hammer enough? A customer installed 46 tons (4000 sf) of to decorative type stone, fairly rounded with minimal fines on their driveway. I love the back and forth in the comments section. Only now did I realize that I neglect to answer. Nope, no good. But yeah, Id try and d-limonene it, maybe try a careful pass with a pressure washer. I think that where there is soil, the rain results in dirty water covering the stones, making them dirty more quickly than might be expected. Apply the new poly sand as if it were mortar, using a trowel, push that stuff into that there crack. Hello.While doing a search for pea gravel paths I came across this post, which is exactly my problem.Did anyone ever come up with a solution?OP, how did you solve your problem?Thanks for amy help out there. Im not sure what was put between them at the time. They dont bother our river rocks by the pond but those are fairly large. Stone would have to be of appropriate thickness, outdoor adhesives/exterior thinset used for the ornaments. Using pavers, like TRUEGRID pavers, to stabilize your pea gravel walkway is another option. Thank you. That would take a bit of my time and consultation fees would be applicable. I was very worried about the hazing of the stone from using Polymetric sand. I think you use what you have available. If my advice is at all helpful, then please share my stuff on social media. Another material I had considered was decomposed granite, which I recall seeing a lot in California. or mortar, in your case. It consists of small, rounded stones and is commonly used for high-traffic areas due to its smooth finish. Hi Devin. Do I nned to re-apply screening? I think Ill try the screening stuff. I don't know if it is chemically dog friendly. If you wanted to email me photos, then I could do some research, and then I could advise you. A fragment of flagstone that is 8 inches by 3 inches by 2.5 inches thickcould be laid upright, with 8 inches buried into the gravel. Google patio floor drain choose a decent looking one, read their instructions.Im available for consultations if you wish for individualized guidance on this project. Thanks again! I have no advice nor opinions and nothing at all to say about permeable pavers. Shady area you say? And thank you Good luck with your flagstone project! Thank you for your very fast response and for taking the time to answer my question. I particularly appreciate the advice on killing any weeds that get in there with hot water, vinegar or pulling them by hand vs using Round UP. We visited a tourist attraction that had done this. https://www.devineescapes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/zzz.jpg. Gravel is much less vulnerable to damage from seasonal . Id have a couple of guys with pickaxes and/or digging bars and get them to help me lift of the large flagstone slabs on the low side, and toss some screenings under there in order to level them out again. Its a simple affair, really. Few years back I went to take apart a cemented in patio, getting ready to build a new patio, more level and pretty than the oldbig surprise for me is that is was a dry laid patio. Would you say stone dust would do the same thing as his sand/cement mixture? Spot on! Do you have pea gravel? Resulted in ugly haze. Its been working for me. I go about it with love, gratitude, and hammers, chisels, powertools and with all that I have. Specifically, decomposed granite aka decomposed granite screenings is crushed stone, made from granite. Therefore I very carefully applied the poly sand directly into the joints using a grout bag. Any ideas for adding curb appeal to this small house? And reallymaybe make the drainage saw-cut, then fill in a couple inches with road base type gravel. When laying the flagstone, I use a four foot level.2.5 inches over ten feet is equal to 1 inch over 4 feet. Having decades of experience, I can make this type of material workby fitting them tight, malleting them into their bedding material, maybe using some of the smaller ones uprightor not at all, and other tricks Ive picked up over the yearsbut still at the end of the day, a dry laid patio built with this sort of material will probably not be 100% wobble free at job completion. The first option that I gave will not keep 100 percent of the gravel in placebut most of it, yesand if you remember to use modified gravel, gravel with smaller chips and stone dust in it, then it should feel pretty sturdy underfoot. It commonly ranges from 0.63 to 1.26" in diameter and is commonly sold by the ton or truck-load. It would fail, but I see the reason. I plan to do a flagstone patio. Have written about replacing mortar joints in a couple of articles. Leave the joints about a 1/8 1/4 shy of the tops of the flagstones when youre finished. Would you do a combination something? Halsted White Sand & Utility Bags 50 lb. This project will be my first. Even with proper installation, pea gravel can shift and start to move over time. Incorporating the gravel into the soil seems to have improved the drainage, too. *its a plant fiber. Flagstones tend to be larger (2x3 or 3x3), mixed with some smaller units (1x1 or 1x3). Then we mixed a ratio of 2 parts mortar to 1 part pea gravel. Gravel-Lok, also known as "Gravel Glue" is a Polyurethane-based resin which when binds stones together when applied. Like Ive said many timesjust stay away from plastic landscape products! Do you have any recommendations on my project? The look is great, however, it is too soft for their liking. I just have to tell you . They get slippery. great article. Is it well compacted? This article might help a bit too: https://www.devineescapes.com/taking-care-of-your-patio/%. Should I try to hammer drill the mortar grout out? I am considering adding about 5 to 10 tons of fines to firm things up a bit, hoping that the smaller particles will help lock the larger stones in place. Remove pea gravel and start over. Often, gator dust is used by contractors who set the stones 3 or 4 inches apart, and that usually causes problems. Is it worth bothering with or will the gravel do the job itself? So I use a 4 foot level. This is basically putting an acrylic binder, liquid plastic, on top of the joints. 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